# Intents without forms causing contradicting rules

**URL:** <https://forum.rasa.com/t/intents-without-forms-causing-contradicting-rules/54598>\
**Category:** Rasa Open Source\
**Created:** [August 1, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.rasa.com/t/intents-without-forms-causing-contradicting-rules/54598 "2022-08-01T15:19:23Z")\
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**Post date:** [August 1, 2022, 3:19pm UTC](https://forum.rasa.com/t/intents-without-forms-causing-contradicting-rules/54598/1 "2022-08-01T15:19:23Z")

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I want to trigger a specific utterance when there is an intent without an active story. But, when I created a rule (below), it caused contradictions in the story (below) that used the same intents while there is an active form.

The general goal is I want to be able to chat with my bot. And, so long as the user triggers certain intents, I want it to respond with a given utterance. In this case, if the user writes about this day (which is considered a long description), I want the bot to respond with a question. So long as they continue writing prompts that are longdescription intents, it should ask the same utterances.

But, I only want the bot to respond this way if there is an active form

````auto
- rule: conversation without form
  steps:
  - or:
    - intent: inform
    - intent: longdescription
  - action: utter_ask_conversation_withoutform_question
  - active_loop: null```

````

- story: interactive\_story\_1 steps:
  - intent: act\_asana\_path
  - action: asana\_form
  - active\_loop: asana\_form
  - slot\_was\_set:
    - requested\_slot: asana\_number\_select

  - intent: affirm
  - intent: inform
  - action: asana\_form
  - slot\_was\_set:
    - requested\_slot: asana\_number\_select

```auto

```